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"Denver Is Stuck In The 90s" (denver80222) 02/22/2016 at 04:07 • Filed to: Denver Does Design School

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SOOO MANY LINEZZZZZ

Leon711 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 02/22/2016 at 04:36

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Yeah, it’s not very intelligent either.

Solidworks all the way.

Gone > Leon711 02/22/2016 at 06:32

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ProE or nothing! It also has a sweet PDM system.

I’m on SolidWorks now (this is my 5th CAD package). It’s a solid(works) #2, but ProE does a lot of things more efficiently and does things that SW struggles with. Photoview360 is damn good though. The seat licence cost is stupid high for ProE though. AutoCAD is great for certain things and a couple guys here are amazing with it. I am not the greatest at it.

spanfucker retire bitch > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 02/22/2016 at 06:49

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Any CAD program that isn’t parametric Sucks with a capital ‘S.’

Literally any program that does 3D Parametric modeling is better than AutoCAD.

Leon711 > Gone 02/22/2016 at 07:06

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I use AutoCAD and Solidworks at my current job but used Autodesk Inventor at university. Solidworks is definitely the one I get on with best but I haven’t used ProE.

kial > Gone 02/22/2016 at 08:02

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I sell ProE(creo), price is within 5% of solidworks, but people believe its wide because of prices via 2006.

Solidworks is good but it is too flexible to the point it doesnt always mean you have a feasible product when you hit the manufacturing floor, also large assemblies but designing a car part wouldnt be a problem.

AutoCAD 2D is great, but they really have their focus more on their BIM and 3d Printing

kial > spanfucker retire bitch 02/22/2016 at 08:04

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I would love to agree, sometimes with simple products 2d is just much faster. Most shop floors still work in 3d, even companies I have implemented PLM in are still not using model based definition. So in reality most of the time you design in 3d and make in 2d, and barring complexity 2d might be better

kial > kial 02/22/2016 at 08:05

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Also

AutoDesk PLM and Solidworks PDM are a joke compared to windchill. Solidworks has this crap problem where they own the catia kernel and sell solidworks off the NX kernel, aka they pay Siemens everytime they sell. And then they have two plm systems, one robust one generic.

I imagine that company blowing up in 5 years, nobody will see it coming though

spanfucker retire bitch > kial 02/22/2016 at 08:18

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Even if I was just doing a 2D set of lines, I’d still use Inventor or Solidworks or UG (what I currently use) because the sketches are parametric.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 02/22/2016 at 08:44

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heres some more lines

Gone > kial 02/22/2016 at 09:17

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Interesting about pricing as the numbers I saw were way off from that. We just switched to SW and ProE was not in the budget. Maybe we need a different sales guy...

I keep forgetting it’s now Creo, as I’ve called it ProE forever. I think the functionality is much better, but there are some aspects of SW that are better than ProE too. I believe the overall user experience of ProE (and PDM) is just that much better. Windchill is really awesome. I had it with ProE at my previous job. We have ePDM w/SW (Enterprise) and it sucks compared to Windchill.

I have some 10k+ hrs combined in all the various CAD programs I’ve used. As long as I have my SpacePilot Pro (and SpaceMouse for travel/meetings) and Logitech MX910 I am good to go.